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tinantravis
09-15-2006, 05:31 PM
Isaiah should be 3 months and 7 days old today.
I should be home with Isaiah and his big brother, Ethan, today.
I should be on maternity leave today and next 35 days.

One thing I've learned from our experience of losing Isaiah, is that hardly anyone says the right thing to the grieving parent. Many don't know what to say. My advice to those people: Don't say anything at all. Just hold me and give me permission to say what I need to say.

Returning back to school was one of the most difficult things I have had to do. I am a high school teacher and left school last spring with only seven days left of the school year....I left school to have a baby...

I did have a baby...his name was Isaiah. Isaiah passed away one hour after his birth...and I've returned to school to answer the question, "Aren't you suppose to be on maternity leave?" and "how is your baby?" and one of the most simple questions that has a loaded answer, "how was your summer?".

I was actually looking forward to returning to teaching because I was running out of things to keep my mind busy at home and I thought the students would be a nice change. At the same time, I wondered if I would be able to teach since Isaiah is on my mind all the time....what if I can't teach? The question scared me half to death. I was most fearful of seeing some of my last year students, the students who last saw me pregnant. Suprisingly, the students responded more sympathetically than the staff.

My fellow staff members, many of whom I am very close to, have continued to avoid me like the plague. I'm sure they are thinking, "Don't make the teacher who just lost her baby cry!" This has left me to feel abandoned, like I am putting on a facade. I have been forced to say Isaiah's name in conversation so they know I want to talk about him, but then the topic of discussion quickly changes to something school related. "Everyone else can talk about their families, but let's shield Tina the pain of talking about her family." I've told some of my closest co-workers that I want them to ask about him, hopefully someday they will ask.

I wasn't prepared for those who had no idea what happened at all. It was so awkward.

My students handled my situation much better. They did ask questions. They seemed empathetic. They wanted to know more. They asked to see pictures. They wanted to know more about triploidy. They returned after the first day to see me again even though I cried when they asked how my summer was.

The answer to my question about whether I would be able to teach became crystal clear: I can teach....in fact, I'm a better teacher.....I'm a different person. I'm a real person to my students.

They are helping me with my healing.

Other things are, however, not helping my healing. Let's start with....
My doctor: At my visit, she asked, "So, how is it being a mom of two?" UMMM...HELLO, you can't tell me many babies die in the small town of Menomonie--Let's just say that she's not my doctor anymore.

This week was really rough for me, but gave me the opportunity to confront some feelings. We went to visit some friends who just had a baby. Of course I held their new baby and thought I was okay until I got home and the waterworks started. What was especially tough was they were complaining about some of the difficulties he had at birth and I just wanted to say, "At least you have a baby...you have no idea how lucky you are!" The next day, my brother-in-law who announced he and his fiance were pregnant two days after we buried our son, called to tell us that they found out they are having a girl.

I spent that night with Isaiah....sleeping by him, talking to him, singing to him, and letting him know how much I needed him. And through all the tears, I felt some comfort. People say that God needed him and that he is in a better place....but I beg to differ. Nobody needs their baby more than his mother.

Some people say, "You're going to have rough days," and I think, "it's not just a rough day....it's a terrible, heart-wrenching part of my life."

Thank you to this forum for giving me permission to share.
Tina Denzer
Mother of Ethan, 20 months, and angel Isaiah (6-8-06)

Angie Bocquin
09-15-2006, 05:50 PM
Tina,

My heart goes out to you. I would love to see more pictures of Isaiah if you have any you can share.

You have the right place in this forum. Here you can be yourself and feel free to say anything you want and we will listen. Nothing you say will be wrong here http://www.nowisleep.com/images/icons/icon11.gif

I am not familiar with triploidy. I am going to do a search now.

I look forward to your posts.

Angie

tinantravis
09-15-2006, 06:00 PM
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Pictures of Isaiah and one of Ethan, all compliments of Heather Lombardo, the photographer who allows us to connect with Isaiah everyday.

Angie Bocquin
09-15-2006, 06:08 PM
He is absolutely beautiful, Ethan too! I love the one in the bath.

I did some research and if I understand right Triploidy is due to a complete set of extra chromosome, so 3 of each instead of 2?


Thank you for sharing Isaiah with me!

Angie

Tasha Nicholls
09-15-2006, 09:33 PM
Tina,

I am so sorry for your loss... I truly can't imagine how heartbreaking and difficult this has been for you at this time, and my heart aches for you and your family.

I am glad that you've been able to find some comfort and compassion from the students... and sorry that the staff haven't been more supportive. It's unfortunate that so many of us adults do nothing (or the wrong thing), when we're in an unfamiliar or uncomfortable situation. I can't believe the Doctor's comments... she, of all people, should have been fully aware and sensitive to your loss. I would have been infuriated.

Isaiah is such a beautiful little boy... thank you for sharing his gorgeous photos with us. I love his hair and his little, button nose, and sweet mouth. He is absolutely darling.

Please come back often and share your thoughts and feelings with us. We care about you and understand that you need to talk about Isaiah and grieve for him... he is your sweet little baby, and always will be. Hopefully, we can give you some sort of solace... we can't take the pain away, but will always listen.

Tasha

Tammy
09-15-2006, 09:42 PM
Tina~
Thank you for sharing your feelings, and the beautiful... beautiful images of Isaiah and Ethan with us. Please know this is a place you can come to for encouragement and support, anytime you feel there is no place else to turn.
Although our experiences are different... and we deal with our grief in our own way... there is so much common ground.
I too, have had people avoid me like the plague, or change the subject abruptly when I mention my son's name. I have also lost faith in those people who I thought I could confide in... tell anything to or share my feelings with. They just don't get it. They don't want to hear about our loss or how going through this has profoundly changed our lives forever. Although I hope and pray they never have to experience such heartache and grief, it would be a nice change to have someone open-minded enough to stop and listen to what I have to say about my son who is not here with us. Even if there is no response back, just a simple hug, and a maybe a response like, "If you ever need to talk, I'm here to listen", and really mean it.
It amazes me how differently your students responded from the adults. Think of it as a light of hope~ by sharing Isaiah with those wonderful kids, you are teaching them a valuable life lesson for future generations. You are teaching them that IT IS OK to talk about the loss of your baby. IT IS OK to express those emotions. It is ok to remember your baby, and share his memory with others. You are teaching them although Isaiah may not be here on this earth, he was born, he made his mark on the world and he is a real little person. I truly commend you for that, and I commend the response of your students wanting to know about your son. How neat is that? Maybe your students could teach the adults a few thing about empathy and compassion.
Again, thank you Tina for giving us the privilege to know about your precious son Isaiah~ he is truly a light of hope.
Many Blessings
Tammy

Cheryl Haggard
09-19-2006, 12:46 PM
Tina,
By reading your post, I can see that you are a wonderful mother, an incredible teacher and have a beautiful heart. Both of your boys are beautiful. Thank you for sharing them with us here.
I totally agree with what Tammy said regarding your students. Continue on with them...
I agree with you that our babies should all be here with us. WE need them...But I also have realized that our babies are here for a reason...They are born to us, for a purpose. How long they stay is not our decision. All of us here, have different views on life. Different religions, beliefs, social status, backgrounds, professions...All of our children leave something here, with us, and with this world. You might never know the impact Isaiah has had on other peoples lives...But just know, that he has made a huge difference in this world...Starting with you and your family.
I am so glad that you have found us here...
My heart is with you...
Cheryl

Tamara Scott
09-19-2006, 05:42 PM
I'm so sorry about your baby Isaiah. I worked with a family whose baby died in August just an hour after birth. I'd love to hook you up with the other mom if you are interested. She is a great woman and I think you two could really help each other.
Let me know if you want me to send you her e-mail address.
Tamara

Heather Frackiewicz
09-20-2006, 08:40 AM
I'm a teacher and a mother who has lots two babies, so I know exactly how you feel.

We had triplets in February 1999. We lost one at 11 days. I went in to drop off some papers for the sub and my students were very understanding. But I got absolutely NO acknowledgement of anything from the staff or faculty. The principal's secretary thought I would want privacy, so she didn't tell anyone anything - that I was in the hospital with PTL for 5 weeks, that the babies were in the NICU, that Nicholas had died...nothing.

In December 2002, I went on winter break about 16 weeks pregnant. I was starting to look pregnant, everything was going well. At my 17 week u/s they discovered no heartbeat. I had a d&c later that week. I came back from the break not pregnant. Again, my students were understanding - but no acknowledgement from the faculty or staff.

Of course, my friends said something and gave me their condolences. But our school has a "courtesy fund" that is there to send flowers and a card whenever you lose someone, and also when you have a joyful event. I used to contribute each year. But after both having triplets and losing one and hearing nothing from the school - I stopped contributing. Maybe they just didn't know what to say.

I've found that in most cases, the students can be more understanding and caring than the staff. Heck, they can say my name properly - France-KAY-vich. I've been there 13 years and the front office still calls me Frak-a-witch.

momma to 2+ an angel
08-13-2009, 08:09 AM
Some people say, "You're going to have rough days," and I think, "it's not just a rough day....it's a terrible, heart-wrenching part of my life."

I agree with this and it has struck me so true... You Isaiah is adorable. Very handsome boys you have, Tina.

Jenn

StacyHayward
08-13-2009, 04:30 PM
What beautiful images you have of your children, thank you so much for sharing.
I hope it's ok to share my insight as a NILMDTS photographer as thankfully, I have not experienced the great loss that so many of you have except by reading these stories that make my heart break time and time again.
Although it's tough to consider at a time when you're hurting so badly, I would like to think that most people just don't realize what's right and what's wrong and what's comfortable to talk about and what's not. I think it's natural to assume that talking about a child who has passed is taboo and most probably have the best of intentions by avoiding the subject altogether even though it's probably maddening as heck to those going through the experience. I only know what I read from these boards and through all of your shared experiences, which has helped me in trying to comfort families in their time of loss, otherwise, I probably wouldn't have any clue either. I also believe that most people avoid the subject because they're afraid of opening their mouth and having the wrong thing come out, so they figure staying quiet can't be any worse than that. I recently worked with a family that had lost their daughter in a car accident a few years ago and I can tell you that if not for NILMDTS and the experiences shared here, I too probably wouldn't have even brought that little girls name up. But, I did and was so happy to see that it was ok to talk about her and although a few tears were shed, I was so happy to get to know her through her family and I could tell that they were so happy to be sharing her.
Through sharing your experiences here, without realizing it, you are helping to spread the word about what's right and what's wrong in these types of situations and I know I am very grateful for that as I'm sure many others are so thank you. I feel the pain of your words and wish that no one EVER has to go through this horrible experience, thanks for letting me share my thoughts.

rcarr
08-13-2009, 08:19 PM
I went thru fertility issues at the same time my sister in law did. We were like night and day. I wanted to discuss them and hear about other peoples' stories, she barely let the family know what was going on. People are so different....Maybe you are suppose to be helping the rest of us know how to help people who are suffering loss...it is so hard to know what to say and what to do.....maybe you can help them so they can help you...tell them the story about your son...they will know you are comfortable talking about it.